Today, we dive into the polarizing topic of marriage counseling. Some people swear by it, some simply view it as a waste of time and money, while others see it as a shameful admission of failure. Mark shares a bit of background into how and why he (and his wife Chris) became so passionate about the topic of marriage, marriage counseling, and marriage ministry, and Mark and Justin each share their perspectives on how it's such a valuable tool for couples. They also discuss the stigmas and stereotypes associated with seeking therapy for relationship issues. Tune in to hear our co-hosts attempt to destigmatize this often contentious issue.